This product works great for aviation and automotive would recommend it to anybody and everybody that has a ripped filter
Darren W
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Bogert Talon Oil Filter Tool
October 22, 2024
Brilliant tool!! It took 10 seconds to remove my destroyed oil filter.
Andrew T
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Bogert Talon Oil Filter Tool
October 2, 2024
Worked as advertised, good quality material use on tool.
Michael L
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Bogert Talon Oil Filter Tool
August 23, 2024
Tool works great
Ronald E
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Bogert Talon Oil Filter Tool
June 8, 2024
Awesome tool that actually WORKS...no gimmicks.
Gregory H
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Bogert Talon Oil Filter Tool
May 31, 2024
If you change oil filters often, you NEED this tool to get you out of that occasional broken filter that cannot be gripped in any other way...a sanity saver tool.
Gregory H
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Bogert Talon Oil Filter Tool
May 30, 2024
Worked immediately on the first try, ending two days ordeal. 2015 Honda CRV.
Richard L
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Bogert Talon Oil Filter Tool
May 21, 2024
Oil filter removal tool worked great. Took less than three minutes to get off the dented, stuck oil filter on the tractor.
Wayne M
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Bogert Talon Oil Filter Tool
May 17, 2024
Built like a tank. After wrestling with this filter for days, once the shell was destroyed and removed, with this tool the filter came out effortlessly. I broke three other tools before I found the Bogert Talon.
Rich A
May 8, 2024
Had a stuck filter in a location with very little room for most tools. Was able to get this little gem on it and remove it
William M
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Bogert Talon Oil Filter Tool
April 12, 2024
This product is a lifesaver. It worked like a charm on a motorcycle filter when all else failed.
Emily L
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Bogert Talon Oil Filter Tool
March 19, 2024
This tool looks amazing and it can probably do the job if this was my last resort to remove stuck filter.I will add this to my oil filter tools.
David O
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Bogert Talon Oil Filter Tool
January 19, 2024
Worked perfectly. Life saver to remove stuck on shredded oil filter.
Jose S
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Bogert Talon Oil Filter Tool
December 28, 2023
This tool will remove the most stubborn stuck oil filter. Very good quality.
Kenneth H
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Bogert Talon Oil Filter Tool
December 26, 2023
Don’t not buy, broke within the first minute trying to get oil filter off. I used a a ratchet and it just broke the studs like they were nothing… horrible material
Taten S
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Bogert Talon Oil Filter Tool
December 19, 2023
2 day free shipping with fed ex not sure how that happened but thanks guys.To make something like this would have taken more then 45$ of time and material so happy with the price , the tool everything ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
Egiche S
November 22, 2023
This thing was a life saver. paid to have oil changed for the first time in 30 years & the incredible hulk must have put it on......i did not have the exact oil filter wrench because I use a different brand, but I figured no big deal, ill drive a screwdriver thru it and be able to get it off. I have done this many times, but this time it simply shredded right thru the cheap ass filter.....no matter what I tried, screwdriver & hammer to air hammer, I could not get this filter to budge & it was in pieces. had to chisle the flimsy metal off to where only the ring that connected the engine was left. Once I got this amazing tool & matched up the holes, I was able to remove the POS filter...I had about given up and was about to have vehicle towed to shop which would have cost me hundreds of dollars.
Stephen B
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Bogert Talon Oil Filter Tool
November 10, 2023
This is a great tool!
After crushing my oil filter and being left with only the top lid
I tried using a screwdriver and hammer with no success. I even tried heating it up with a torch , would not budge. So after searching the Internet I finally found the Bogert Talon oil filter tool and ordered it.
Before it arrived I sprayed the stuck oil lid with penitraing oil.
After receiving the filter removing tool it only took about 15 to 20 minutes to remove the stuck filter lid.
This is a tool every mechanic needs in their tool box.
For me I couldnt be grateful
Howard H
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Bogert Talon Oil Filter Tool
October 24, 2023
This tool made a nightmare filter removal come off in a snap. This is a great tool for anyone to have for just that situation.
Matthew W
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Bogert Talon Oil Filter Tool
September 29, 2023
After struggling for hours to remove broken oil filter made the purchase of the wonderful tools and completed job in short time.
Alan A
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Bogert Talon Oil Filter Tool
September 16, 2023
Muy bueno
Jose
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Bogert Talon Oil Filter Tool
September 12, 2023
Not used yet. Added it to backup tools based on recent problem.
Georgie R
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Bogert Talon Oil Filter Tool
September 3, 2023
Messed around with every other method of removing the oil filter because I didnt want to spend the money on this tool. Let me save you some time... Just buy this tool. It took me less than 30 seconds to pop the oil filter off with this tool, and these guys shipped it really fast. Worth every penny
Joshua F
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Bogert Talon Oil Filter Tool
September 2, 2023
I did everything I could to avoid buying this tool. In the end I spent way more in my time messing around than this tool cost, and this remove my oil filter in less than 5 minutes. Do yourself a favor and just buy this instead of messing around with everything else.
Joshua F
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Bogert Talon Oil Filter Tool
August 23, 2023
Product worked as expected, with a minor change to the m6 screws. Replacing them with m3 screws
Jarvis C
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Bogert Talon Oil Filter Tool
August 8, 2023
Dennis D
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Bogert Talon Oil Filter Tool
June 28, 2023
Had broken oil filter and saw this on YouTube and the person got it off Amazon. Not there anymore so it took awhile to find it. Ok, so I found it here and ordered. Came very fast. Has extra screws/bolts to use for different filter holes. I changed mine out to to next size smaller in diameter. Tightened down the swing arms just a bit so the setting didnt get knocked off as soon as I got back under the car. Placed into broken filter oil holes and it spun off, literally took 30 seconds when I got back under car. It took more time to unpack the tool and adjust it then it did to use it. Worked great! Yeah, spent $50 to remove a stinking oil filter but this tool IS the lifesaver!!! It works as described, PERIOD!
Kevin K
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Bogert Talon Oil Filter Tool
June 15, 2023
Great tool. Does the job . highly recommended.
Luis O
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Bogert Talon Oil Filter Tool
May 30, 2023
A little pricey, but it was the only tool that worked to remove an oil filter base that seemed like it was welded to its base.
Kenneth L
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Bogert Talon Oil Filter Tool
May 23, 2023
It worked perfectly
Gary L
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Bogert Talon Oil Filter Tool
May 12, 2023
Worked like advertised
Daniel I
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Bogert Talon Oil Filter Tool
May 4, 2023
The talon tool is well made and a sturdy product. they ship it with 3 sets of pins to fit into a stuck oil filter. For my application the tool ended up being a hinderance but that was not the tools fault. I had a stuck oil filter in a boat bilge which was very difficult to get it. the fact that I bent 6 of the 9 provided pins is not the tools fault. I ended up needing to demolish everything with a punch. I would for sure buy the tool again, it would be handy for anyone with a stuck filter.
John E
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Bogert Talon Oil Filter Tool
April 11, 2023
a huge lifesaver.... I tried all the tricks I could before finding this tool.... once you get the bolts lined up, and tightened, you should be good to go... the only issue that I ran into was that it does not lock on on to the ratchet like a regular socket would, so it would slide off... but then I wrapped some plumbers tape around the drive, but once I did that, it worked perfectly, dont wait, buy it.... it is worth the price and really its not a bad price for the amount of time you save.... and good luck if you try to find something like this anywhere else... trust me, you will not find it anywhere else.
Kevin C
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Bogert Talon Oil Filter Tool
March 28, 2023
Excellent brilliant tool that works with ease.
Daniel K
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Bogert Talon Oil Filter Tool
December 29, 2022
The Talon oil filter remover saved me! Excellent tool for a tough job. Completely torn open filter was removed in less than 1 minute! Happy customer happy engine
Robert I
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Bogert Talon Oil Filter Tool
November 4, 2022
Great product, worked like a charm!
Kyle G
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Bogert Talon Oil Filter Tool
November 2, 2022
Worked like a charm. Totally life saver. Thank you!
Willem G
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Bogert Talon Oil Filter Tool
September 23, 2022
Worked exactly as advertised. The filter would not budge with anything I tried. Mangled it in the process. Removed the can and internal components. Removing the plate was only a five minute job. Wouldve been less but it was so far up the central thread I had to put the longer bolts on to reach the holes. Adjusting the arms can be tricky. Hard to find something between very loose and immoveable tight but obviously that didnt take that long.
Roland N
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Bogert Talon Oil Filter Tool
August 20, 2022
After spending two days using other tools and methods to remove an incorrectly mounted oil filter, this device worked.
Im glad i discovered it.
Ralph
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Bogert Talon Oil Filter Tool
August 9, 2022
This tool was an absolute life saver. The location of my crushed oil filter made it impossible to get in. With this tool and a blind removal I had the filter out in about 20 min. Worth the money!
Trenton D
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Bogert Talon Oil Filter Tool
July 25, 2022
This part helped me remove a seized oil filter from my car. Quite simple to use. Worked like magic!
Felton J
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Bogert Talon Oil Filter Tool
July 20, 2022
Edward C
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Bogert Talon Oil Filter Tool
June 28, 2022
Well it was a very good product I have already completely my tasks and it worked like a charm!!Ten Star’s
Arthur O
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Bogert Talon Oil Filter Tool
June 21, 2022
This product is a lifesaver! I had tried literally everything and every tool. This was the only thing that worked and it took off my oil filter in minutes!
Joseph M
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Bogert Talon Oil Filter Tool
June 17, 2022
10 out of 10. I couldnt be happier. The talon oil filter tool works great. Ive been telling all my friends who turn wrenches
Jason B
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Bogert Talon Oil Filter Tool
June 14, 2022
love the tool
Melissa W
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Bogert Talon Oil Filter Tool
June 5, 2022
I had almost destroyed the can of a seized oil filter on an outboard motor . The limited space made using regular, as well as improvised tools impossible. So I began searching the internet and came across the Bogert Talon oil filter tool and it looked like something I could use. I ordered late on a Monday and had the tool in my hands on Wednesday. Needless to say it worked perfectly. The tool is extremely well made and compact so space was not an issue. It is a messy job so just follow the instructions.
This is a great tool at a great price from a company that knows customer service!
Brian G
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Bogert Talon Oil Filter Tool
May 26, 2022
The talon was the tool for the job. Trying to turn filter off one of the bolts snapped so using only two it still came off. Higher grade steel would be better for the studs
Daryl P
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Bogert Talon Oil Filter Tool
May 25, 2022
This tool did the job and saved me a trip to the mechanic. Highly recommend!
Brent F
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Bogert Talon Oil Filter Tool
May 10, 2022
The tool worked great and worth the price.
John O
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Bogert Talon Oil Filter Tool
April 29, 2022
This is my new favorite tool!! This was my first time using it and it worked just as designed. Absolutely nothing else worked. Tried filter wrench, strap wrench, pipe wrench and finally the screwdriver through the middle. Ordered this Saturday on-line from Aircraft Spruce, totally frustrated and desperate, it showed up here today (Tuesday) just as they said and had what was left of the filter off in a matter of minutes.
Rufus
April 26, 2022
I began to believe that the oil filter was never going to come off. Tried all the tricks. The Talon tool did the trick on the first attempt!
Garrett N
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Bogert Talon Oil Filter Tool
March 27, 2022
Ill give it full marks, but have yet to use it. In decades of swapping out filters this rarely happens. This occasion on my Duramax. Tried everything but the screwdriver approach. Waited for the tool to arrive to try one more tack and hope I didnt crush the can. It worked. However, I felt more confidant having an alternative (proven), to use if it all went to hell. Happy I have it handy regardless.
David Courson.
David C
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Bogert Talon Oil Filter Tool
March 13, 2022
Jason P
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Bogert Talon Oil Filter Tool
October 31, 2021
Best thing since sliced bread. Tried everything to get a oil filter off my duramax ,nothing worked. used this tool and got it off in 2 minutes or less. thank you Scott at spruce aviation for your
Jim B
October 14, 2021
worked as advertised... with the instructions, i was able to remove stuck oil filter canaster in about 10 minutes. A must for every garage...
Robert H
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Bogert Talon Oil Filter Tool
August 31, 2021
I rarely leave reviews for anything but this tool saved me tons of money/frustration. Worked great on my 2017 Civic. Only thing I would change is the length of the bolts. Another set with a .25 to a .5 inch more would have made things easier in my case.
Dr. A
August 24, 2021
Great Service. Fast shipping.
Roger S
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Bogert Talon Oil Filter Tool
August 11, 2021
This was my awesome life saver. Thank you
Martin B
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Bogert Talon Oil Filter Tool
July 27, 2021
Worked perfectly, was a life saver. Removed an oil filter that felt like it was welded on.
Vince P
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Bogert Talon Oil Filter Tool
July 9, 2021
The guy who designed this tool is an absolute genius. Tool works so good that I may just overtighten another filter just so I can use it again.
Bruce C
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Bogert Talon Oil Filter Tool
July 6, 2021
This tool is going to work if you have a stuck filter, I had a boat with the original oil filter from 1995 rusted on from the inside and this little baby pulled it off in 15 mins. Honestly took 3 mins but I couldn’t find the holes with the mirror.
Cody
June 14, 2021
Like taking the cap off the toothpaste with this tool. Saved me taking the riding mower to the shop.
Gary
April 27, 2021
This was purchase to remove a filter on a boat. The filter housing is on the top left corner of the motor, factory remoted. Easy access. See it, touch it, all at the same time. I figured the filter change would be easy.
I tried every type of oil filter wrench I have, four different ones. None of them budged the filter. Some of them will never be the same. Finally tried the screwdriver thru the can trick. Still didnt budge, tore up the outside can though. Cut the rest of the can off, removed what was rest of the filter. Saw the filter had been cross threaded when installed (before I bought the boat). Tried monkey wrenches and tried building my own tool using allen wrenches, vice grip pliers and a few other things I cant remember. Gave up. Only had 12 days before a planned trip to Lake Havasu. Started looking on-line.
Found old add for the Talon. The one that was orderable is newer type. Ordered and waited. I think it was about 5 days. Within an hour of recieving tool, The old filter (well, just the bottom) was off. Housing treads were not damaged. Installed new filter. Lake tested, no leaks. The Talon tool was well worth the price. I hope I never have to use it again.
Warren E
April 19, 2021
Worked like a champ
I tried
The Strap
Filter wrench
Pipe wrench
And the screwdriver trick by this time the filter was a mangled mess this tool worked great if your filter if destroyed just get this tool
Rick
February 10, 2021
Great tool! Been changing oil filters for many years. Never had one stuck so badly. Tried everything to remove it. This tool worked exactly as advertised! Great addition to my tool chest! Thank you!
Jeremy
November 5, 2020
I was very glad that this tool was available to the general public, and not just people in the aircraft repair field. I dont believe I would not have been able to get my vehicle back up and running without it. It took a little while to get the tool set up for use, but once I did it worked like a charm. The filter base came off in about 2 minutes. A great investment.
Graham D
November 2, 2020
I had a stuck oil filter on a Yamaha Waverunner. I tried every tool I knew and it would not come off! I ordered this tool and had it off in five minutes!
Ryan
September 10, 2020
Outstanding product. Once I got this tool I was able to accomplish removing the oil filter is less than five minutes. I spent more than 4 hours prior unsuccessful ly. Definitely worth the money
Charles
August 1, 2020
It was a lifesaver! The only tool that removed a very stuck oil filter on my car! It is great quality and would recommend you to all my friends!
Carol C
July 13, 2020
This tool is unreal! Though I hope I dont have to use it again, knowing that its there allows me to rest easy. I had an oil filter stuck on my Harley that wouldnt budge. A little elbow grease and this tool popped that bad boy off in seconds.
Michael C
July 6, 2020
This tool was a total life saver. I had an oil filter completely locked onto a 1979 Dodge. With no idea as to when and how the last oil change had taken place and every other tool I had or purchased was leaving the future very dim. It took some heat applied to the filter to ultimately get the Talon to break it free, but it did. My only concern was the re-use of the tool after this since the torque applied deformed the bolt extensions and the 3/8 extension insert. I was pretty sure I had not exceeded the 1,500 ft/lbs by hand no air tools used.
Jason
June 29, 2020
This tool is amazing! Was the only solution after trying every other possible option to get the oil filter off. Complete game changer!! Absolutely incredible solution.
Michael
May 16, 2020
I used this to remove a stuck oil filter on my John Deere tractor. I had tried every trick in the book with no luck. I got this in the mail, attached it to my impact gun, and had it off in less than 5 minutes. Truly a life saver! It now has a prominent spot in my tool box for life!
Steve B
April 19, 2020
Absolutely genius, this tool not only does what it was designed for it is incredibly well manufactured.
Ric D
February 20, 2020
Worked perfectly as described, in 5 minutes had the base removed.
Wayne Z
December 6, 2019
After 30 years in the oil change business, this is one of those tools you will be really happy to have. Great product. Thanks
William
October 25, 2019
great tool took 5 min and had filter off. thanks very much
Eugene M
June 28, 2019
I couldnt get the oil filter off my 2010 Kawaski mule. I tried everything and finally resorted to the old standby of driving a Philips head screw driver through the can. It would not budge.. .the screw driver just ripped through the can. At that point I used vise grips to tear off the can in pieces. I bought this tool online. I did have to buy three longer m10 screws because the oil fill tube is about an inch long. Once I got the longer screws I used a 3/8 ratchet to remove the oil filter base.....just as promised. It took all my strength to get it to turn, but it finally started. I would highly recommend this tool. It wasnt easy but at least it was doable.
David D
June 25, 2019
I received the ordered part in the mail today. I was fighting a stuck filter on a marine engine for about two days, not much access to the filter. The part came in as expected, and I could not stop raining to finish the job. Raining, stuck filter, no access, working with one hand, still, this tool did the job in under 10 minutes. Amazing. Thank you.
Fabiano S
June 20, 2019
I Had a big issue with my Honda covic where the oil filter was stuck. This was the solution. The screw that came with it were a little short, I went to Lowe’s and purchased longer ones and it reached. The tool is worth the $. Thank you for taking the time to come up with this great solution.
Fabricio
December 29, 2018
Worked great.
Wayne L
October 28, 2018
It took me 2 minutes to take off a stuck oil filter with this amazing tool. Before, ordering this tool i went from an oil filter wrench to a screwdriver. And nothing seems to work, so the frustration kick in. I recommend this tool for a stuck oil filter, so the price was reasonable for the do it yourself project. 1..2..3..connect to oil filter and turn counterclockwise, then it come right off.👍👍👍👍👍
Myron H
August 21, 2018
The item work really good called Bogert Aviation Talon oil filter the tool was easy not hard to remove by time I got it off I was so happy I spent about 2 weeks trying to cut the oil filter out and this tool save me May cost a lot but its worth it . Thank you for your item and business .
Johnathan T
May 31, 2018
I bought this as a back up for a vehicle I was in the process of restoring, didn’t end up needing it. I know the quality is impeccable, 100% guaranteed it would have been the answer to relieve the headache I was given by the filter I removed. it will always be in the top drawer of my tool box. Hope I never need it but I will always have it! THANK YOU!
Jay
December 7, 2017
Youre going to feel really stupid that you over-tightened the filter in the first place, but after 4 hours of toil on my Cessna 182 with no results, this tool removed the filter in under a minute with no fuss.
Joe M
September 29, 2017
Had a stuck oil filter on a 1995 dodge dakota destroyed the filter can trying to get it off. 5 min after receiving your tool it was off. Would have gave it 100 stars if i could have worth every penny. If you have oil filter problems get this tool you wont be sorry
David G
August 17, 2017
I have a 23 foot trophy with a 5.7 liter mercriser in board engine. It is almost impossible to get to the oil filter to begin with. After several hours and every trick in the book, I found this tool. I had to pull my exhaust manifolds for room and as advertised removed the stuck oil filter. This tool was my only option minus pulling the engine. Although it worked great, I hope I never need it again lol.
Tommy
May 27, 2017
Perfect. Saved me $100s of dollars if not more and hours of frustration. Removed a destroyed and seized oil filter off my Harley in minutes.
Brandon
April 14, 2017
After 3 days of fighting a SIEZED oil filter on my old pickup truck I recently purchased, I had run out of ideas. I had tried everything, the band, the correct pliers, the screwdriver, and a lot of frustration. I searched for help without knowing about this product, it was my last chance and within 5 minutes the oil filter was off!!!! Thank God for this tool and great company, they were fast and their product worked great.
Clay
April 12, 2017
If I could give this device ten stars, I would. I had five hours in on my new lawn tractor. I dutifully proceeded to change the oil, only to find that the filter had either (1) been torqued so hard on that I was never going to get it off or (2) they had not oiled the gasket at all. Either way, any attempt to remove it just trashed the filter can. There was really nothing left to grab and turn. I searched for a solution. The Bogert tool was mentioned in several spots, so I thought I would try it. I followed the instructions to remove the filter innards and the can. I had to drill slightly larger holes so the talons would fit, but it ratcheted off in less than three minutes. It was my only remaining option and it worked great.
John C
October 29, 2016
This product really do what it claim but only after I did a modification on it due to the screws that came with it were too short I had to go to Homedepot to get the same style of screws that a bit longer cause the oil filter holder on my 2005 civic are long
Sunsylo
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Bogert Talon Oil Filter Tool
November 15, 2023
Removing an oil filter from your car should be able to come off using just your hands however this was not the case for me as the last mechanic over tightened the filter and forgot to lubricate it. I tried 3 different oil filter tools to remove the filter but had no luck. I then tried the screw driver through the filter trick but this did not work either my screw driver kept bending! The only thing left to do at this point was tare the filter apart and try to use a chisel and hammer and get some momentum going so the filter can hopefully turn....NOPE! After cutting up my hands, swearing through the roof and my car being parked for over 2 weeks, I finally came across this tool I read good reviews about it so I decided to try it. Once I got the tool to sit on the oil filter holes, the thing came off within a minute! Boy was I happy to get that son of ***** off! This tool worked like magic.
I only gave this a 4 star because I thought the tool was overpriced for a small simple tool other than that, Im happy to get my car back on the road.
Amidi
February 27, 2018
Overall the product worked. Had one of the “grade 8” bolts break off trying to remove the oil filter. This should not have happened. Changed them all out and it was fine.
Ian G
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Bogert Talon Oil Filter Tool
March 29, 2022
Steven V
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Bogert Talon Oil Filter Tool
July 27, 2021
Very nice design. Even though it removed the filter I wished it was made of better material. The tool did its job, however just like most companies today the manufacturer uses inexpensive material that could only be used once. I realize its all about the profit margins but I would have paid more for something that I could have kept for longer.
Alex
March 30, 2017
While the product worked, it did not hold up to the challenge that we were faced with. The body of the unit is apparently not made of stainless or high grade steel as we had to straighten in a vise several times. The socket receiver hole on the body also became distorted from the amount of torc we used. I would like to think the tool is not a one and done but in this case it was. Still valuable.
Jack G
September 7, 2019
1st thing, one of the screws put into the oil filter holes snapped off. Tried the 2 hole method and the tool itself bent. Tried the longer screws, and the tool got caught in the holes that was a pain to remove. Absolute waste of money for me!
Jamie S
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Bogert Talon Oil Filter Tool
August 26, 2021
Probably a fine tool but the description for its intended purpose is misleading. This is NOT a filter removal tool as the can and filtering element of the filter has to be completely cut, pried, ripped, disgorged and removed before the tool is even used. It IS a filter base removal tool used only when any hope of salvaging the paper media for inspection is given-up on.
Mike S
February 7, 2017
This piece of equipment was roughly made.
I cut the filter as instructed by the instruction sheet. I set filter removal tool based upon the replacement filter, a purilator. I attached the removal tool to old filter, attached the extension, attached the socket wrench.
Put pressure on the old filter to remove, did not budge, reset tool, applied pressure again and tool bent, twisted and became totally unservicable. Awaiting contact on return shipment and refund. Thank you. Good idea, poor execution.
James B
September 1, 2019